Testimonials of the Students.

Ron Lauinger · Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: Testimonials of the Students.

I am a student at LMI and I have taken this shotgun course and I must say it was very fun indeed and I learned a lot! This isn’t your average range course where you just stand around and shoot. This course gets your adrenaline pumping and gets you moving. I learned so much in this course and can now say I am pretty damn good with this shotgun and could hold my own in any situation. You will be running back and forth to cover and concealment while the LMI instructor calls out targets at random. He may also load your tube with dummy rounds so you will learn awareness, clear your bad shell and keep moving. During all of this you will be changing rounds, going from slug to buck and back. You will never know what target is next so you must be ready at all times. I cant wait to start the pistol course soon!
Ryan F.

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Ron's knowledge of self defense is excellent. His training is based more on real world fighting. His focus is more on awareness and how to avoid a situation. But, if you have to, he teaches you how to destroy your target, and fast. It is not based on martial arts. His knowledge of edged weapons and improvised weapons is exceptional. Highly recommended to anyone wishing to learn how to defend themselves in the real word. My wife is planning on taking his class this spring. The great thing was how he was able to customize the training by coming to my house, after I worked all day, including one weekend day. Thanks Ron,
Dave O.

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I just took Ron's defensive shotgun course and found it was awesome. If you read the student comments in his sticky above, that is exactly what you'll get. Excellent close quarters combat instruction and lots of fun to boot. We own AR's for more than just static range shooting. But the skills learned here are useful all around.
BubbaBob

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Edward Avila / Owner www.AR15.com.
Since I'm still catching up on work, and will post a much more detailed report as soon as I get a chance (just finished this 2-day class yesterday), let me just say I cannot recommend Ron's training enough. I realize there are many on here that are not willing to take a class from someone they don't know, so let me say a few words about a few points:
SELD DEFENSE/CQC: For anyone that leaves their house, carries a knife, or even a gun, I HIGHLY recommend taking not just one but many courses on self defense. In most real-world situations where no matter how well armed you are, you need to know how to respond to an attack/confrontation to either diffuse, avoid, get away, or worst case get to your primary weapon before all that shooting training will even come into play. Ron's 2 day course is not for people who carry a knife as a primary weapon- it is about reacting to an aggressor so you can asses/react accordingly. This class will give you the basics that you need, make you aware of many things you probably never thought of, and teach you some techniques, many of which you can practice on your own. But like everything else, you will realize that it's just a beginning- to be proficient you need to continue to train and practice.
LMI: Ron is an excellent instructor, with a full resume of experience, and all of his teaching is real-world, no-BS, street applications. He can tailor the training to the group's needs, and I assure you EVERYONE will learn. Many of Ron's self-defense methods are based on Aikido, and for those familiar with it, it is a martial art that uses your attacker's actions/body against them, so that your defense is not based on your strength or size; everyone can benefit from these lessons, regardless of current abilities or experience. If any of you are thinking this is a knife on knife fighting class (perhaps the course title is misleading), rest assured there is much more to it. This class is about responding to a confrontation which will most likely be in your face, fast, and your life may depend on your initial 1-2 seconds of reaction. There will be a number of eye-opening demos, lessons, and experiences for those that attend. As stated before, not only to I recommend this class, I'd say it should be REQUIRED for everyone with any sort of an interest in self-defense or protecting those you care about. I'd go so far as to say it is the most important training anyone can undergo, no matter what your choice of weapon is. If you were going to take one class, then I'd say this should be it.

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I just wanted to say how great Ron's training at LMI is......I have been working with LMI for a year now.....i have taken many of the courses they offer and I'm always impressed with what I learn each and every time........my main focus though, is CQC.........LMI's CQC personal defense course is well, ....AWESOME!......i have learned SO much in the past year and his training is worth every penny........my confidence level has risen, and i know 100%, that i could devastate my opponent within seconds if i really needed to......you will learn how to QUICKLY! stop or take down your opponent with ease and also learn what to do in a situation AFTER THE FACT, which is also a must know......ive learned so many things about real life situations and what the "average person" does in these certain situations.....from what ive learned at LMI and what Ive seen in everyday life, i refuse to be that average person anymore......i now feel completely comfortable handling an edged weapon and would actually prefer that over a pistol any day......that is how fast you will be with your new found skills.......i urge the members here to at least give LMI a try......they offer many free courses and you WILL come back to learn more......that is how great you feel when you leave......i have seen many videos of companies that say they provide the same training and techniques.....this is not true at all!.....i guarantee you will see a huge difference in the style of training within the first half hour of the course........so dont be shy, and sign up for one of LMI's Saturday group courses they offer once a month......its very cheap and youll have 4 hours to see how great this training is and get a feel for the style of instruction they offer and you will see exactly what i mean......i hope to see you at class! thanks for listening and have a great day! Smile

Cocktail

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Hi Ron, Training with you has certainly met and exceeded my expectations. Before the training I had a lot of concern about using a shotgun. I probably used my gun more that first morning than in the last twenty years that I owned it. But you taught me valuable and simple techniques that will last a lifetime. I have now traded my home defense tool from an AR to a 12 gauge because in close quarters it's just a more effective tool.
Bubbabob

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Hey Ron, Thanks for another enjoyable Sunday shoot. I will be there again Sunday if it rains, if it stays cold and we still have snow I will have to miss. Not too many snow shoe days left south of ADKs.As you probably know I do a lot of shooting on Tues nights. I was “lucky” enough to shoot 1st on my squad @ GCL on Tues which means I had no idea what to expect on one of the stages. Usually once the 1st person runs through, everyone knows who the bad guys are and its just a matter of trying to score enough points when you cruise through the course. Your scenarios change every time and the emphasis is on identifying the threat and reacting as quickly as possible. The concept of changing the goal or “order of attack” under fire never comes into play up there as it does on your shoot. Tues night still is a lot of fun, but your training adds a sense of realism impossible to duplicate in that environment. The fact that your classes are outdoors in itself adds realism. Running for cover and taking a knee to retrieve loose ammo is a lot different w/ an inch or 2 of snow on the ground than it is on dry concrete. I have owned a pair of 870’s for many years and have killed a lot of deer w/ them as well as many clay pigeons but after a couple weeks at your shotgun class I am realizing I really know an awful lot less than I thought about how to effectively run them. The high-speed reloading/shooting drills were a lot of fun and will help build muscle memory and a thorough familiarization of the weapon. I still can’t believe I was able to shoot as much as I did, If more people knew what you are doing, the place would have been packed. Next time I will bring more ammo! Thanks Again
Alan

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I just attended a CQC/Defensive Knife Course offered by LMI today. I have been attending the weekly shooting classes at the Canandaigua Sportsman’s Club for a while now and have realized that Ron has a wealth of knowledge and expertise. So when he offered the “free” CQC course, I of course jumped at the opportunity. I was not disappointed. I have never had any formal self-defense training what so ever before this. I started out learning the basic grasps and takedown maneuvers and it wasn’t too long and I already had a few favorite takedown moves. As the day progressed I became more comfortable and could perform these actions at a faster speed. This is day number one for me mind you. In the afternoon, Ryan showed up and I got to practice my newly found skills on him. He is quite a bit taller than Ron (and myself for that matter), so some of the techniques worked better and some had to be modified to get the desired outcome. This showed me that in a real life situation, your attacker may be bigger or smaller than you, so you will have to adapt to that, but the basic premise is still the same. During the knife portion of the course, I learned one important thing. That is, you don’t want to be in a knife fight! If you go toe to toe with someone and “spar with a knife” you are going to get cut to ribbons. The red lipstick marks on our shirts, from the training knives, will attest to that. I learned that it is much better to fend off the attacker, by moving in close and taking him down and by adding in some strikes, therefore ending the fight quickly and hopefully without getting cut. I also now know that the knife in my pocket will never make it out in time to be used, when you are under an aggressive close encounter attack. The day ending up with basically a free for all with unscripted attacks to see how I would respond. Some of my techniques were clean and smooth, and some were, well let’s say “improvised”! The basic rule is, that if your move fails, as it very well may happen in a real world situation, follow through with a strike, a distraction, or another move and get your opponent under your control. Ending the attack quickly is the ultimate goal, no matter what. In addition to being a fun learning experience, this class was one hell of a workout! After a few minutes of non-stop action, I was out of breath and my heart was beating like a drum. It by far exceeded any cardio workout that I’ve done at the gym. Over all I would recommend this class to anyone and everyone who wants to know how to stop an attacker that is determined in doing you harm. I plan on taking more of Ron’s CQC courses as well as some of his gun-fighting courses. I am already signed up for his CQC Gun Fighting class.
Thanks again to both Ron and Ryan.
Tim

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I recently attended a free Pistol class offered by LMI. Let me start by saying that I learned a great deal and had fun while doing it. Ron is an excellent instructor and I will definitely be attending more classes at LMI whenever my schedule permits. Ron is very good at what he does, and equally as good at passing along his knowledge to the student. The drills were challenging, well thought out, and filled with plenty of techniques to keep me busy. Ron is a very likeable, down-to-earth guy. It was nice to meet and train with everyone (including some fellow AR15.com guys). I recommend Ron and LMI to anyone without reservation. Thanks Ron, I look forward to more training in the future
Pete

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Hey guys, I'm one of the guys in the LMI video for the shotgun course. It was 2 days and it was INTENSE!!! My friend and I shot over 850 rounds of 00buck and slug each over the two days. Thats a total of about 1700 rounds total in the 2 days. I have to say, my shoulder does not hurt in the least. there is a small bruise there, but it's hardly worth mentioning, and it certainly doesn't hurt. The part of my body that hurt have nothing to do with the shotgun at all. My legs, from being overweight and out of shape, my knee, having a torn meniscus, and my fingers felt like jelly the one day from using them to manipulate the SG and the rounds. So to anyone who thinks that your shoulder will hurt after all those rounds, I have to tell you, it WILL NOT HURT. There isn't one correct stance and position of the SG that will make it not have recoil, but for whatever reason, when you are running around and reloading, transitioning from buck -to slug - to buck, aquiring the shoot targets and engaging, and avoiding the no-shoot targets....somewhere the recoil gets lost. If your mind is on how bad your shoulder is going to hurt, we'll then maybe it will. but as soon as you forget about it, it has no effect on you.

About the class, I'm not an expert, nor have I taken a bunch of different classes to compare, but what I can say is that Ron @ LMI definitely can show you a thing or two on what to do and what not to do. what works and what does not work. He's open minded, a friendly guy, and easy to talk to and be instructed by. No ego, no B.S., and a great guy. Most importantly, the class was FUN AS HELL.

The course sure let me know just how inefficient I was, physically speaking and also with my proficiency with a SG.
I hope this helps anyone who is thinking of taking a course, ESPECIALLY RON'S AT LMI, be ready for a day of moving around, realistic scenarios, more moving around, having a good time, and learning a lot about yourself and your abilities.
If you have time, I'd recommend the CQC courses that he teaches as well. these skills will help you when you will not be able to deploy a gun or blade fast enough....and still stop the attack. VERY USEFUL!!!!
just my thoughts.....
Pinwormfood

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Yesterday I attented LMI's Advanced Carbine Course given by Ron Lauinger. Ron brings over 18 years executive protection, corporate security and security management to the table on top of his time in the Marine Corps as a Scout/Sniper and Marksmanship Instructor. The course was filled with drills such as threat assessment, failure to fire and reloading, multiple target engagement,shooting on the move and after action assesments. The well structured class made for plenty of range time as opposed to some schools I have attented where most of the day is spent in the class room. Ron's philosophy of train hard, be safe is evident through out the days class. With the small class we were able to train outside the box and get the most out of our day.
The end of the live fire was topped off with a shoot house using Airsoft firearms putting the days drills to work. The cost of the course is very affordable at $200. Ron holds many other courses such as pistol, shotgun, cqc/knife defense and can custom tailure courses to anyone's needs. Here is the link to his site.
SLAMB

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A great philosopher once said “we learn by doing”. A great CQC instructor says “this is how you rock the bad guy’s world”. Then he pops you to make sure you get the point. Book learners and fancy dancers need not apply. The LMI experience is straight forward, hands on, literally “in your face” training that relentlessly focuses on the mind set and technique necessary to neutralize and counter violent threats to your personal safety. My investment in a 3 course combination of Close Quarters Combat, Defensive Knife and Close Quarter Gun fighting proved to be especially productive. Core training concepts were repeated and reinforced in a variety of scenarios sharing the same goal: victorious survival of a deadly confrontation. Realistic exercises produced a profound paradigm shift that’s difficult to put into words. Suffice to say that while my personal safety was never in doubt, I was popped, choked, slashed and shot until I clearly understood what needs to be done to get home safe at the end of a very bad day. If you harbor any doubts about your ability to physically respond in a tight spot, want to build your confidence or are just looking to polish existing close combat skills, I highly recommend that you give Ron a call. The modest tuition may prove to be the best life insurance you ever buy.
Anthony B

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The following is a long overdue AAR for LMI’s Defensive knife.

It’s been about two weeks since myself and a friend have returned from LMI’s Defensive Knife course. First, let me say Thanks to Ron and LMI for hosting this course for us.

We got to LMI and after the initial meet and greet, we were off right into the material. No class room or lecture to set through, all meat and potatoes. The class size was small and that allowed a lot of one on one instruction. This was beneficial due to the amount of material and techniques that we covered.

The techniques that we learned were straightforward and simple to learn. They were easy enough to learn for some one who has no background in martial arts or in knife fighting. That being said I had an easier time over my friend, due to my Judo and BJJ training. Learning to fall and roll correctly was huge, especially being a big guy. The techniques taught flowed falsely from empty hand to knife defense to any weapon defense.

I will say one thing about knife fighting, offensive or defensive, you are going to be cut. We were demonstrated and instructed that it’s up to you if you want to be cut once or multiple times. The normal person (sheep) when confronted with a bad guy with a knife would be to get some distance. Which is not a bad idea, but a determined bad guy is still going to get you. We were taught to close the distance and take the intuitive and use the techniques we were taught (wolf response). It may not seem natural to close the distance especially when confronted with a knife but the demonstration opened are eyes. The “NO LIE BLADES” do not lie. As the pic shows.

All in all the instruction at LMI was first rate. Ron’s course was informative, straight onwards and enlightening. My toolbox definitely got bigger after this class. I recommend attending a training course at LMI; you will add tools to the toolbox or sharpen the ones you have.

Sean

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I'm sorry to see you go, however I understand completely, and wish you great success and greater business opportunities in your new location. My only regret is not taking advantage of you training more while you were here. I am glad to get the training I did from you.

I haven't taken a lot of formal training classes, with the exception of 2 classes by Chuck Taylor, (pistol 1, and carbine). That said, I think your teaching style, attitude, professionalism, and think-out-of-the-box/pragmatic/what-really-works philosophy eclipses Chuck Taylor, and is way above all of the local/WNY/CNY wannabees (and I know &&&&&&& well) who are little more than mall ninjas and gun handling 101 instructors.
Thank again, (private)

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Hello! I just wanted to take the time to comment on Ron's course! I took one of his introductory courses on 02/17/09 And Ill definitley be coming back for more! I must say my first impression on meeting Ron was he was very ordinary looking, very polite, courteous and friendly which was very welcoming(which I have to say was not what I expected from a CQC instructor)however He is a wolf in sheeps clothing for sure(much like I expected a a CQC instructor to be like minus the sheep skin)! . After a brief introduction we went into his gym and went over what we would be learning over the next few hours while we waited for the other classmate to arrive. Oh and I have to say Ron is no sheep at all when it was time to get to business he was all wolf and had as much passion and desire to teach his skills to us!

Ron has extensive and unique training tools to teach hand to hand, knife fighting and defense, and much more, in a very easy to learn package! All of what we learned in the intro class was built from a few key components that we just built from to better suit our attack or defense whether it was from a fist, a grab, a knife , a bat or what ever.. The moves are simple to learn, easy to remember and totally devastating to your attacker. I cant wait to train further with Ron as he loves to teach and train new people and share his awesome skills. In the 5 hours we spent training, I gained some more confidence in my skills. I also was humbled on some myths of the street as to what works and what doesnt, and went away with a new respect and outlook to combat training. With Rons techniques it doesnt matter if your 5'5" and 120 pounds or 6'5" 250 pounds the skills and tools he gives you equals or even puts the "chips" in your corner! Thanks Ron! If your looking for quick easy devastating techniques look no further than LMI and Ron....
Jason

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I had the opportunity to take a LMI class on the first of March. I brought my wife and a buddy to the class not really knowing what to expect. There was another fellow there "Big Lug". LMI had taught us the basic defense and offense tactics for CQ situations. LMI taught and explained in "REAL WORLD" terms on what to expect from bad situations and how to get out of them. LMI will make you understand how even an amateur knife fighter will win against a CQ pistol match- it's scary. LMI had even taught my wife (5'5") on how to take down a 6'8" "Big Lug" guy with a little effort and not just by kicking the "twig and berries" if you know what I mean. We drove almost 2 hours one way. It was EXTREMELY worth every minute and penny. LMI is a MUST for todays real world issues.
Skidz38

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Hey guys I've been taking LMI's Combative Courses now for just over a month and wanted to give some feedback.

I've never had any type of formal training for the record. I've been doing the 3 hour weekly meets & I've already done one of the 8 hour hand to hand courses. I also plan on his fighting pistol course coming up in a few weeks and many more to follow.

The training is great, the people that have signed up so far are great and Ron is great also. SUPER nice guy, honestly just looking to teach real skills. No one, including Ron ever tries to be a "tough guy" or show their dominance during training. So don’t feel intimidated even if you are new or have experience, this class works for you. I am brand new to training and my friend has been trained in various martial arts over 15 years and we both feel everything we have learned is completely different, a better perspective and very useful.

Not only do we go through techniques, but we also go through various drills to try and employ some of them. And when I say try, I mean Ron teaches that everything isn’t going to always work - you must keep moving, keep thinking and going to plan B,C,D etc. It is also an open discussion, we always talk about different ideas scenarios and concepts - always an open forum with the intent to teach/learn.

This isn’t just about fighting, its about thinking and thinking QUICK, focusing on an objective and executing until the objective is accomplished. There are going to be situations that will be over whelming and how you handle them will determine how you walk away from them. When you train for them, with the proper training, you will be able to react quicker and more efficiently, giving you better odds in life.

What I really like about this training is its versatile. Hand to hand, pistols, shotguns, rifles and knives - he covers just about every aspect you would want. So there is something for everyone.

Guys I HIGHLY suggest this, so come on out and at least give it a shot.
Johnny (4/4/2009)

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I wanted to comment on LMI. He's moved to the Cleveland area and I've had a chance to start taking his classes.

All I can say is Awesome!
I started taking the CQC courses once a week since February. Since I have also taken a knife course, and Combat Pistol I. Ron's courses are excellent. I have nothing but good things to say about them.

The CQC classes on weekdays are mainly hand to hand where Ron starts at your level. He covers techniques, you practice them, engrain them, then use them in a low light, high stress environments. My skill level was zero when I started. We've covered grabs, charging attacks, knife attacks, attacks from behind, ground fighting, and disabling your attacker: breaks, chokes, deploy a ccw, blade, ect. Ron's motto is instantly and immediately attack your attacker. Ron gets you in the mindset then you do it. You will be able to take your attacker down and take him out (or escape) and protect your loved ones. The classes can be physically grueling or not, its up to you. In that time I have developed confidence, muscle memory, and the need to make my toolbox of techniques bigger. I look forward to class every week.

The knife course is conducted in the same manner with rubber and foam knives. You will be shown how knife attacks take place, put in that situation, then taught how to handle it. You will be shown how to attack an attacker that has a knife pointed at you, in your face, against your throat, and poking you in the back. You will have him down and be in control before he can react. I was amazed at how well Ron's techniques work. Definitely out of the box!

Pistol Class. You're not standing still shooting a target. No lecture. You're at a 360 DEG range and shooting close quarters. It's out of the holster with threat assessment, combat reloads, moving and shooting, and attacking moving targets. This was a day well spent. I've never gotten gotten so much out of a day of shooting. Evey time I go to the range I shoot different and practice different. If you ccw this is a must!

I will comment more as I continue. It would be great to see more of you here! Krankshaft72 (8/10/2009)

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Guys this is the real deal. I just had Ron in Findlay over the weekend for this class (Fighting Pistol 1). This class exceeded my expectations. I have also taken classes from Ken Hackathorn and Ron is right there with him. Shoot-house was phenomenal and trust me it is a real eye opener as to threat non-threat targets. Add a strobe light and loud music to that and you definitely have something you cannot experience at most ranges. Great out of the box training this isn't your grandfathers tactical training. Ron brings a ton of real world experience to the table and lets just say that I wouldn't want to have to take him on. scrampop (8/25/2009)

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We highly recommend this class for females as well as males. Every woman should be able to fend off an attacker. Ron altered the self defense moves for the women in the class so that we could maximize our attacks. He also discussed mindset, awareness and how to harden homes and daily routines. This class was extremely beneficial to my sister and I.

Alisa M. 1/30/2010

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I took the close combative class. I had a lot of fun and learned tons of useful things. As a woman, I feel more confident in my ability to defend myself. There are different techniques for women that Ron showed us how to execute. I would recommend this class to all women.

Ashley M.
1/30/2010
Findlay, Ohio

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AAR on June 6 Fighting Rifle Course.

Good course. The instruction was on par with other big name shooting courses; Farnam, TDI, Suarez, etc. Ron is a 1 man show with minimal overhead so he's able to keep his prices low.

Also, like other schools where you would need 1,000 to 2,000 rounds for the day, Ron works with his students and suggests that they load 5-7 rounds per mag (more if you want) for the beginning stages. This way you can keep your ammo expenditure to around 500 rounds for the day. In the room clearing and move and shoot stages you'll want your mags topped off!

I also do H2H with Ron and his philosophy with H2H, Knife, Pistol, Rifle is all the same. Training with Ron isn't so much about learning 'his way' but rather a guided tutorial of refining 'a way that works for you'. Much of the training is based on experiential learning of what works and what doesn't. Ron also builds stress inoculation training into his curriculum through a variety of approaches. But he's not all work and no play either, there are several drills that build your confidence. After the course, Ron then pulls out the Airsoft gear for Force on Force training and stays as late as people want to.

If your looking for the stage after "OK I know how to shoot, now teach me to fight with the weapon". Then you need to look to Ron's courses.

PS... there were a few things I noticed that kind of bothered me though:

* All of the other students were set up with either IDPA type magazine set ups or nothing at all. I was the only guy with a chest rig. I got a few strange looks.

* Ron teaches to drop magazines. Which is technically realistic if your not set up to retain (drop pouch or an open BDU leg pocket). So there were alot of scattered magazines.

* Also, Ron allowed the students to ground their rifles and go back and reload. Which keeps the pace steady for the class. I was the only one who put the barrel safety flag in and carried my rifle with me. It took extra time, but thats the habit we ingrain. Which BTW, there were several rifles always laying around (even when the students went to lunch!). In a pinch it would have been a$$holes and elbows looking for rifles.
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Train Hard and Be Safe,

Ron Lauinger


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